[NMLUG] Qwest/MSN?

[peter at espen.net (Peter Espen)]

One of the most important differences between ComCast broadband home
service and QWest DSL is the user agreement.  Specifically, with
ComCast running a server (services) is not allowed.  That means you're
not technically allowed to run a mail server, web server, etc via your
ComCast home connection.  With QWest DSL, there are not restrictions
on running services on a home server.

On 5/14/06, Eric Krieger <gcleric@linuxjunkie.net> wrote:
> Just though that I would add my $.02.  I have a Comcast cable modem and
> as shocking as is may seem I've had no issues with it.  Even their
> service has been excellent.  Having recently moved the Comcast service
> tech was sitting at my new house, at 8:30am on a Saturday, waiting for
> me the very day I moved in.   With that said, personally the price
> difference for a QWEST DSL vs a Comcast cable modem isn't all that
> great...
>
> QWEST DSL = $19 per meg
> Comcast = $8 per meg
>
> Sure a cable modem is shared bandwidth but I've never gotten below
> 4megs. Not to mention that I don't have to be within 19000ft of a
> comcast central office to get max bandwidth. Lastly the name QWEST is
> not associated with good service or reliability.
>
> It's a shame that America is lagging so far behind in terms of broadband
> services.
>
> http://muniwireless.com/community/guests/872/
>
>
> Eric
>
>
> On Sun, 2006-05-14 at 17:58 -0600, Peter Espen wrote:
> > My QWest DSL (1536 Kbps down, 896 Kbps up - I havn't upgraded to the
> > 1.5M yet) with
> > SWCP as ISP and two SWCP e-mail accounts cost me $29.99/month for the
> > Qwest DSL on my Qwest bill and $27.76/month for the SWCP ISP service
> > and two e-mail accounts for a total of about $57.76/month.
> >
> >
> >
> > On 5/14/06, John K <rosaandme@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > I agree with all the below-mentioned points about MSN vs. local ISP's. I had
> > > NMIA dial-up for awhile and absolutely loved the Linux support. What it
> > > comes down for some people is price. I haven't checked it out myself but I'm
> > > told that the premo service with two email accounts ($3 each) w/SWCP is
> > > about $75/month. That compared to $27/month for first year and then
> > > $45/month after w/Qwest MSN is a substantial difference. This obviously is a
> > > choice everyone has to make for themselves and there are a lot factors, most
> > > of which have been mentioned. (I for example couldn't do Qwest DSL w/NMIA
> > > b/c my phone line wouldn't allow it, so I had to go with Comcast.)
> > >
> > > Right now I'm just trying to get a technical question answered: is it
> > > possible to set up an email client like Thunderbird (not a webmail client)
> > > while running Linux using Qwest MSN? Has anyone done this? It seems like it
> > > should theoretically be possible but I don't know enough to know for sure.
> > >
> > > Thanks everyone for your feedback!
> > >
> > > Peter Espen <peter@espen.net> wrote:
> > >  On 5/14/06, Matthew McCleary wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I've got to disagree there, though keep in mind that I'm not in New Mexico
> > > > -- I'm in Trinidad, Colorado. I've had Qwest/MSN 1.5 Mbps DSL service
> > > since
> > > > mid-December and have had virtually zero downtime and hardly any
> > > flakiness.
> > > > If I had to assign numbers I'd say I get a glitch maybe once every two
> > > > months or so, and it's always short-duration (2 hours or less).
> > >
> > > Of course, that assign IP numbers thang is an ISP function (in your case
> > > MSN).
> > > Once every two months or so for 2 hours or less sounds pretty bad to me.
> > >
> > > I've had QWEST DSL for almost 8 years now. For a while initially I
> > > had Qwest.net as an ISP until they bailed and started migrating
> > > everyone over to MSN. At that point, I bailed and went to local ISP
> > > service with Qwest DSL and have been very, very happy. Another thing
> > > about most (not all, but most) local ISPs is that they are usually
> > > quite linux savvy and happy to support you if you're running
> > > linux...with MSN you'll typically get call-support-dropped faster than
> > > a hot potato as soon as you mention that bad 5 letter word: LINUX.
> > >
> > > There's absolutely no reason I can see to use MSN, especially if
> > > you're a linux user. You'll also tend to get much better internet
> > > routing characteristics from a good local ISP, much better than MSN
> > > can provide.
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Matthew
> > > >
> > > > On 5/14/06, Michael W. Folsom wrote:
> > > > > I second that idea -
> > > > >
> > > > > You don't have to deal with the MSN barf - they run a bad shop and you
> > > > > are headed to call tree hell.
> > > > >
> > > > > Frankly there is a more basic reason - I've worked with a few folks that
> > > > > went the Qwest/MSN route and the connection doesn't seem that stable.
> > > > > My Qwest/SWCP DSL connection has been up for 5+ years - down only 3
> > > > > times, all of which were my fault.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Michael
> > > > >
> > > > > Peter Espen wrote:
> > > > > > I recommend QWest DSL and I also recommend avoiding MSN. Go with a
> > > > > > local ISP instead. I use SWCP and have always been satisfied.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On 5/13/06, John K wrote:
> > > > > >> I have a friend who's experimenting with Linspire and is thinking
> > > about
> > > > > >> taking advantage of Qwest's $26.99/month DSL promotion w/MSN as the
> > > > ISP.
> > > > > >> Does anyone have this service up and running w/Linux? We're pretty
> > > > > >> sure he
> > > > > >> could get online w/out a problem but we're not so sure if we'd be
> > > > > >> able to
> > > > > >> set up and use an e-mail client like Thunderbird. It seems like it
> > > > > >> should be
> > > > > >> possible but neither of us are experts and you never know with MSN.
> > > > > >>
> > >
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