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[NMLUG] drive duplication/backup



On Tue, Feb 10, 2004 at 09:14:02PM -0700, Ed Heron wrote:
> From: "Peter Espen" <peter@espen.net>
> 
> > >   What is wrong with tar?
> > >
> > >   We all know tar doesn't make a drive bootable.  We also know that if
> you
> > > tar a partition (ie. tar c /dev/hda), when you untar, it doesn't resize
> the
> > > partition into the new size.  Tar just isn't designed for that kind of
> > > thing.
> >
> > I think 'dd' and 'fdisk' are better tools for such things because they can
> > copy boot blocks and such, which would have saved you the need to do all
> > that Win95 boot disk stuff you describe below.
> 
>   Can dd change the size of the partition?  Since it does an image copy, I
> was under the impression that the destination would then have to be 'fixed'
> for any change in number of blocks.  Plus, the destination has to the same
> size or larger than the source, doesn't it?

I think that's right, you would need to use a ext2 resize tool.

> 
> > ...
> 
> > >   The conclusion of all this is that I have a backup method for Win95,
> 98
> > > and ME that isn't Windows based.  Also, with chroot, I can have a Linux
> > > partition make itself bootable.
> >
> > Technically, it's partially Windows based because your method needed the
> Win95
> > boot disk you describe above.  Linux with 'fidks' and dd' can duplicate
> Windows
> > partitions and drives completely without needing any Windows software at
> all.
> 
>   Yes, but in most cases, you must use the OS in a native environment to
> convert a collection of files into a bootable system.  Unless you have
> something that understands the rules.  I've used Partition Magic to resize
> and move partitions around.  However, considering my recent success, I may
> switch to tar.
> 
>   I think it may come down to what you are comfortable with.

Will simply copying the first x blocks of the device, then fdisk, then rewrite
those blocks be enough to save the windows bootblocks?  Then use lilo after
the fact.

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